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SQR #6

Salvador Chavez and Shang Wang
ENG. 1320/1301.161
Trang Phan
Oct. 7, 2010
Author(s):Peter Elbow “Closing My Eyes as I Speak: An Argument for Ignoring Audience”. Collage English,Vol.49,No.1 (Jan., 1987), pp. 50-60
The more experience writers will go and write and try to suit the reader and they
don’t even take their own consider into it; and the least experienced will go off and just w
rite what they feel making it about them self’s which end up difficult to understand by the
readers. This audience can make us be in a state of mind that is hard to translate thoughts
into words because we are too nervous to do so. The audience awareness disturbs and
disrupts our Writing and thinking without completely blocking it. An audience can be as a
field force when writers begin to think about readers as they write to try to express their
ideas and main points clearly. As a listener I can get more ideas I wasn’t thinking about
closing your eyes as you speak can help you regain your thoughts and express better your
ideas. According to one of the models people learn discourse because they have an audience,
and this is good to be a better writer.
Question: Elbow argues that the audience is a field force. What do you understand about? Have you experience inviting enabling?
Response: I do agree that the audience is a field force because it impacts you in
a certain way that can make shy and nervous or make you have more ideas. It feels
like a rush of energy flowing through your body make you have different feelings and
thoughts. Yes I have experience enabling because some times when I prepare a speech
and I go and present it more ideas came to my mind as I’m talking in front of the
audience and the speech came up different than I planned to be.

SQR 6 Brenda Carmona

Brenda Carmona

ENG 1320/1301.161

Trang Phan

10/4/10

SQR #6

Author: Peter Elbow “Closing My Eyes as I Speak: Argument for Ignoring Audience”

Source: College of English, Vol. 49, No. 1 (Jan., 1987), pp. 50-69

Summary

It is said that while one speaks they close their eyes to ignore the audience and arguments so that they can avoid audience awareness. Peter Elbow belives that an audience is a field of force. He also says “the effect of audience awareness is somewhere between the two extremes: the awareness disturbs or disrupts our writing and thinking without completely blocking it out.” (pp.51-52) Different people may not close their eyes as they speak but at times I catch myself doing that and it helps me block out everything and it makes me think better maybe not for everyone but for me it works. It sometimes becomes an overload when speaking in front of an audience so start by ignoring them and focus on your thinking when done thinking you can turn to the audience. When I feel overloaded is if I hear the audience I lose my focus and don’t know where to begin from.

Question:

Peter Elbow argues that the audience is a field force. What do you understand? Have you experienced it?

Response:

I belive that the audience is a feel of force because an audience can distract you or make you nervous. We can make a statement infront of the audience and they can react in a bad way so you can become afraid or go blank. The audience though is good because they can judge your speech but you may not like what they have to say about it. It is something that one has to deal with when having an audience.

Baltazar Herrera SQR 6

Author:  Peter Elbow, Closing My Eyes as I Speak: An Argument for Ignoring Audience

Source: College English, Vol. 49, No. 1 (Jan, 1987) pp.50-69

Published by: National Council of Teachers of English

What this article is mainly about is the way the author will write an essay or an article and to whom he is directing it to. The more experienced writers will go and write and try to suit the reader and they don’t even take their own consideration into it; and the least experienced will go off and just write what they feel and they make it too about them self’s witch will end up bad for the readers. It is also very difficult for writers to write for a group of people because this there are several different types of audiences and many time the writers will take their opinion into the writing. There is three types of audiences its inviting, enabling and inhibiting; each with their own opinion on an article. You see fir inviting and enabling what the author dose is he will try to make his writing a little more structured and better use of words; and for the inhibiting and for the inhibiting they try to use strong words to keep the readers into the story. This type of audiences is the reason that the authors will choose on who their writing is trying to reach.

Elbow argues that an audience is a field of force. What do you understand about this? Have you ever experienced inviting/enabling audiences or inhibiting ones for your writing? Can you explain how it felt?

You see I think that there is a force that cans ether helps of kill the writers writing. The audience is what the judge of writing is and for the most part they are the one who will end up critic in the paper. And that is what most of the writers fear. They fear that people will misjudge there paper of simply not understand it. I understand that this can help of kill the paper. I have never experienced any type of audiences for my writing because I have never written for a large mass of people, but I have spoken in front of my class and I see that I could relate what I felt when I was giving my speech to this situation. You see I was in my speech class and I guess I gave a boring speech and everyone was falling asleep and I felt I didn’t achieve what I was trying to say. The way I felt was horrible I just wanted to get off the podium and just sit down.

SQR#6 Jaime Garza & J. J. Zapata

Jaime Garza & J.J. Zapata
ENG 1320/1301.161
Instructor: Trang Phan
10/7/2010

Closing My Eyes as I Speak

Citation:

Peter Elbow.”Closing My Eyes as I Speak: An Argument for Ignoring Audience”. College English, Vol.49, No.1 (Jan., 1987), pp. 50-69

Summary:

In this article written by Peter Elbow he talks about the basic principles of how the mindset should be of a writer when approaching his/her works before writing. An audience can be compared to a field of force when writers begin to think about the readers in order to convey their message clearly. Writers that write to readers who have uncomfortable relationships tend to write about uninteresting things and confuse the readers and that is not something anyone wants to do.  Writers need to think about the audience before writing no matter who he/she is writing to, this is a form of writing rhetorically. To think about the audience is a much better thing to do in whatever type of writing in order to not be so self centered. One this is applied writers have to go on and on in keeping their readers in mind as long as the writing continues to go right. Doing this will definitely satisfy readers as long as his/her message is not vague and is clear. The goal to a well written paper is to engage readers to want to read more and more making them interested every single time they read a good writers work.

Question:

Elbow argues that an audience is a field of force. What do you understand about this? Have you ever experienced inviting/enabling audiences or inhibiting ones for your writing? Can you explain how it felt?

Response:

An audience is a field of force because you feel different things when you are doing something with an audience, by the word force I understand that it forced you to make some mistakes or different things that what you have planned, I divide the field of force in two, the positive and the negative, the positive is when you get inspired with the audience and the negative is when you get shy or scared with the audience, I have experience both of them, sometimes I get inspired because the audience likes what I’m doing and It felt very good to see that they are interested in your work, and in the negative, sometimes I get scared because I can see that the audience is not interested in my work and it felt very weird and sad that they didn’t like my work, It’s insulting. In conclusion I agree with Elbow’s write, the audience is a field of force.

SQR #6 Miguel A. Garcia, Jose Mata

Student’s name: Jose Mata, Miguel A. Garcia
ENG 1320/1301. 161
Instructor’s name: Trang Phan
Date: September 29, 2010

Closing my eyes as I speak: an argument for ignoring audience

To close the eyes as speak can be useful to erase the awareness of audience, when a speaker or writer needs all his concentration to figure out or to express what they want to say. Even though ignoring audience usually leads us to a weak writing at first this weak writing can help us in the end for a better writing than we would have written if we have readers in mind from the beginning. Limited Claim, It is not that writers should never think about their audience it is a question of when. An audience is a field of force. The closer we get, the more we think about the readers. The practical question, then, is always whether a particular audience functions as a helpful field of force or one that confuses or inhibits us. Some audiences, for example, are inviting or enabling. When we think about them as we write, we think of more and better things to say-and what we think somehow arrives more coherently structured than usual. Other audiences, however, are powerfully inhibiting-so much so, in certain Cases, that awareness of them as we write blocks writing altogether. There are certain people who always make us feel dumb when we try to speak to them: we can't find words or thoughts. As soon as we get out of their presence, all the things we wanted to say pop back into our minds. The effect of the audience is somewhere between the two extremes disturbs or disrupts or writing. When we have to write to readers whom we have a complicated relationship we always feel shy or scared, when students have to write to readers they have not met they often find nothing to say except repeated clichés they don’t even  believe.

Peter Elbow, Closing My Eyes as I Speak: An Argument for Ignoring Audience, College English Vol. 49 No. 1 (Jan., 1987) pp. 50-69, National Council of Teachers of English

Q.-How thinking in audience can affect our writing?

There are several types of audience. There are some who make you feel more comfortable with, this means that ideas, thoughts and sentences comes easily to your mind thus those kind of audiences help you to do a better job clearer and well structured. In the other hand, there are some audiences that may inhibit us and turn our writing into bad writing; someone who make us feel uncomfortable like our manager or even our parents. Also there are some audiences that we do not know and we often find nothing to say except repeated clichés they do not believe.

SQR #6 Irma De Leon, Mireya Gonzalez

Irma Y. De Leon

Mireya Gonzalez

Eng 1320/1301.161

Inst.: Trang Phan

Date: 10-04-10

SQR #6

Author(s):  Peter Elbow “Closing My Eyes as I Speak: Argument for Ignoring Audience”

Source: Collage of English, Vol. 49, No. 1 (Jan., 1987), pp. 50-69

Summary

            This story is about a writer by the name of  Peter Elbow who close his eyes as he speak for ignoring audience and arguments that way he attempt to avoid audience awareness. What we think about this story and my conclusions to, it is that everything is about our behavior and sense of things one of the examples is closing your eyes as you speak, that is an instinctive attempt to blot out awareness and it is an instinct of behavior. The reading also explain that is very smart to use writer base prose because sometimes is better than reader base prose because I can explore some theories underlining these issues to the audience. Some Audience for example are inviting or enabling that kind of audience make me feel I can write better detail and structural way, and make me have more ideas to make a good writing. Also as a listener I feel smart and come up with ideas we didn’t know we had. Sometimes we realize how often audience are aware of the effect of us as student, some times we often start beating around the bush and feel sad, scared or start to write in a stilled  overly careful style or voice and we have to be an educated reader.

Question:

Elbow argues that the audience is a field force. What do you understand about? Have you experienced inviting enabling?

Response:

The audience is a feel of force because an audience can make you nervous and also can distract you. Also we can make any comment in front of audience that you can’t ever know and make you frustrated of what you are going to say and have fears on what their reaction would be. Like in our daily life’s we tend to have anxiety on doing a speech to the audience because you can get them bored and inpatient thru your comments and reading. But, audience is a good source of representing and judging your speech. There fore you might get intimidated by there thoughts and thinking.